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"After her tragic death in July there was considerable speculation regarding the cause of Amy's death.
But today it has been announced that the toxicology results have been returned to the Winehouse family by authorities and confirm that there were no illegal substances in Amy's system at the time of her death.
In statement released today a spokesperson for the family said: 'Results indicate that alcohol was present but it cannot be determined as yet if it played a role in her death.'
'The family would like to thank the police and coroner for their continuing thorough investigations and for keeping them informed throughout the process.'
'They await the outcome of the inquest in October.'...."
Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:28 pm
hongkonger
Like several posters have said, alcohol withdrawal FTL
Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:29 pm
4dragons
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hongkonger wrote:
Like several posters have said, alcohol withdrawal FTL
NO.
Left Ventricle Hypertrophy brought on by years of alcohol abuse sir. She died of an enlarged heart and complications arising from it. POSSIBLY an electrolyte imbalance, but no way was it alcohol withdrawals.
This guy died from an electrolyte imbalance as well. It can happen to anyone if you aren't careful.
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Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:59 pm
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How the fuck would you know? From reading news reports ? Serious alcohol withdrawal is actually quite dangerous. My whole life I've only known that level of alcoholic twice .. It takes a hardcore mentality to maintain drinking at those levels to get there.
"No."
Seriously 408, the best thing you could learn is what you don't know.
Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:07 pm
THE_COACH
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you know it's bad when hoser, of all people, takes you out back and bitchslaps your roided ass.
Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:29 pm
408mike
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fuhoser wrote:
How the fuck would you know? From reading news reports ? Serious alcohol withdrawal is actually quite dangerous. My whole life I've only known that level of alcoholic twice .. It takes a hardcore mentality to maintain drinking at those levels to get there.
"No."
Seriously 408, the best thing you could learn is what you don't know.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Stick to whining about how Christians are ruining the country, it's about the only thing that you are somewhat good at.
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Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:22 pm
fuhoser
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408mike wrote:
fuhoser wrote:
How the fuck would you know? From reading news reports ? Serious alcohol withdrawal is actually quite dangerous. My whole life I've only known that level of alcoholic twice .. It takes a hardcore mentality to maintain drinking at those levels to get there.
"No."
Seriously 408, the best thing you could learn is what you don't know.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Stick to whining about how Christians are ruining the country, it's about the only thing that you are somewhat good at.
ROFL. What specifically do I not know what I am talking about ? You don't think serious alcohol withdrawal is actually quite dangerous ? Be specific Mikey. Tell us how you know what killed Winehouse.
Where do I ever say Christians are ruining this country ? You are inventing things in your head, you fucking goof.
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Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:30 pm
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I only go by the headline, which said no ILLEGAL drugs found in her system. That to me is a huge red flag that she had a shit ton of prescription drugs in her that she obtained from her doctor. Gotta remember that this is a media story and a family that wants her name to be 'clean' (if they can) when shes put in the ground. Notice nowhere did I say that alcohol withdrawal couldn't kill you, but unless the actual autopsy is released an not just a press release from the family, i'd say she took one too many vic's and paid the price.
I only go by the headline, which said no ILLEGAL drugs found in her system. That to me is a huge red flag that she had a shit ton of prescription drugs in her that she obtained from her doctor. Gotta remember that this is a media story and a family that wants her name to be 'clean' (if they can) when shes put in the ground. Notice nowhere did I say that alcohol withdrawal couldn't kill you, but unless the actual autopsy is released an not just a press release from the family, i'd say she took one too many vic's and paid the price.
exactly, that's the best face they can put on it. booze and oxy's = legal or something in that vein(ahem)
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Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:35 pm
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4dragons wrote:
I only go by the headline, which said no ILLEGAL drugs found in her system. That to me is a huge red flag that she had a shit ton of prescription drugs in her that she obtained from her doctor. Gotta remember that this is a media story and a family that wants her name to be 'clean' (if they can) when shes put in the ground. Notice nowhere did I say that alcohol withdrawal couldn't kill you, but unless the actual autopsy is released an not just a press release from the family, i'd say she took one too many vic's and paid the price.
I wondered about this myself too. It really is hard to be that addicted to alcohol and still functional. She really didn't need to function, just perform... so it seems quite possible she was that level of alcoholic.. Go look at her performances towards the end, she was on some form of downers and it wasn't a nod. I really have no idea either. My first thought was alcohol withdrawal was likely BS ....
Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:41 pm
4dragons
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fuhoser wrote:
4dragons wrote:
I only go by the headline, which said no ILLEGAL drugs found in her system. That to me is a huge red flag that she had a shit ton of prescription drugs in her that she obtained from her doctor. Gotta remember that this is a media story and a family that wants her name to be 'clean' (if they can) when shes put in the ground. Notice nowhere did I say that alcohol withdrawal couldn't kill you, but unless the actual autopsy is released an not just a press release from the family, i'd say she took one too many vic's and paid the price.
I wondered about this myself too. It really is hard to be that addicted to alcohol and still functional. She really didn't need to function, just perform... so it seems quite possible she was that level of alcoholic.. Go look at her performances towards the end, she was on some form of downers and it wasn't a nod. I really have no idea either. My first thought was alcohol withdrawal was likely BS ....
Yeah, I don't know much about it or her, just my experiences with PR and how they always use keywords to make people assume something other than the truth. Again, unless they actually release the actual autopsy report (don't hold your breath), they will just say whatever they can without being lawfully dishonest to protect their daughter. It's like you see people in show business in their 40s dying from pneumonia, bullshit, they died of AIDS.
I wondered about this myself too. It really is hard to be that addicted to alcohol and still functional. She really didn't need to function, just perform... so it seems quite possible she was that level of alcoholic.. Go look at her performances towards the end, she was on some form of downers and it wasn't a nod. I really have no idea either. My first thought was alcohol withdrawal was likely BS ....
I missed it the first time, but when I realized the line was "illegal drugs" it was definitely a red flag. Supposedly she was fresh out of rehab... alcohol withdrawal seems unlikely, but maybe I'm missing something.
Don't think it's unreasonable for an alcoholic to function at that level. I also think performing at that level is way more work than you might think.
Also heard she was fucking up bad at her shows recently. Something about her getting booed off stage at her last performance. Seems like she wasn't holding it together at all.
Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:35 am
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Grimmin wrote:
I missed it the first time, but when I realized the line was "illegal drugs" it was definitely a red flag. Supposedly she was fresh out of rehab... alcohol withdrawal seems unlikely, but maybe I'm missing something.
Don't think it's unreasonable for an alcoholic to function at that level. I also think performing at that level is way more work than you might think.
Also heard she was fucking up bad at her shows recently. Something about her getting booed off stage at her last performance. Seems like she wasn't holding it together at all.
Well if she was recently out of rehab then I would pretty much not think alcohol withdrawal. When I first heard alcohol withdrawal, I thought bullshit too.. but it seems more plausible as things have come out. Her last performances are horrible, you can see them on youtube. She is either drunk or on downers. (not painkillers imo) I think it is very much hard work to perform, but you have other people setting it up adn getting you there when you are at her level... She could be drunk 24/7 if she wanted. She could get by on her name and notoriety... she didn't need to be giving quality performances to book shows.
I like a good rock star (whatever you call her) thats a fuck up. I guess I like fuck ups, not sure. It is sad though she left us at such an age.
Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:10 pm
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so indeed there were no illegal drugs in her system,just enough alchohol to kill a small herd of elephants though, lol@5x the legal limit
Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:58 am
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badbilly32 wrote:
so indeed there were no illegal drugs in her system,just enough alchohol to kill a small herd of elephants though, lol@5x the legal limit
You beat me to it lol. Looks like 408Mike was way off, as usual......
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muck ficon wrote:
badbilly32 wrote:
so indeed there were no illegal drugs in her system,just enough alchohol to kill a small herd of elephants though, lol@5x the legal limit
You beat me to it lol. Looks like 408Mike was way off, as usual......
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:08 am
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Yeah, I knew substance abuse had nothing to do with it lol. Her pathetic family tried to put a positive spin on it anyway, saying it must have been an accumulation of alcohol over several days - it wasn't like she was on some kind of crazy binge.
Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:03 am
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408mike wrote:
hongkonger wrote:
Like several posters have said, alcohol withdrawal FTL
NO.
Left Ventricle Hypertrophy brought on by years of alcohol abuse sir. She died of an enlarged heart and complications arising from it. POSSIBLY an electrolyte imbalance, but no way was it alcohol withdrawals.
This guy died from an electrolyte imbalance as well. It can happen to anyone if you aren't careful.
So if this guy just drank a Gatorade with his raw egg soup he would still be with us?
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:03 am
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She was a very dedicated drinker. I mean like, wow.