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Having trouble with pot odds. 
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DD Fish

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Hey guys I've been playing poker for about a year now and I am turning in a profit and am always trying to get better at my game but I struggle with some of the maths. I've tried to understand calculating pot odds but I'm finding it difficult. I'm not completely retarded and I did year 12 maths. Has it just been too long since I went to school and my brain has stopped working?


Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:54 pm
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So someone bets the pot on the river (e.g., the pot is $100 and someone bets $100). Here we must either call $100 or fold (cause we only have 100 left let's say).

We are getting pot odds of 2:1.

So if we think we are going to win 33% of the time, then we are indifferent to calling or folding cause....

33% of the time we'll win $200 (value of $67)
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67% of the time we'll lose $100 (cost of $67)

If you think you have better than a 33.3% chance to win, then call.

People think about such pot odds on earlier streets, but then you must consider implied odds. The example above was "express odds".

Rule of 4 is helpful re: pot odds: If you have 8 outs on the flop, then a nice rule of thumb is you have approximately 32% chance (8 x 4) to hit your 8 outs given the fact that you can hit it on the turn or river.

Rule of 2: if you have 8 outs on the turn, then you can multiple 2 x 8 and estimate a 16% chance of hitting your 8 outs on the river. In this example I think it's actually about 17%, but the rules get you pretty close.

An important consideration for such decisions are stack sizes -- when you do hit your draw for example you want to make sure you can win enough for those times you don't hit your draw.


Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:31 pm
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Wow....your reply is greatly appreciated. Thanks for your effort in replying me.


Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:41 am
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Math is a lot easier if you stop doing drugs. :beavbutt


Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:14 pm
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Make sure you always keep track of the pot size. Then when it is your turn to act the pot odds are just (pot size/bet size) to 1.

For example on the river you are heads up, there is $120 in the pot and your opponent bets $30, so there is now $150 in the pot. (pot size / bet size) to 1 = 150/30 to 1= 5 to 1.


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