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I am convinced I could still grind it out and make a good living.

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I think you can make a living off those Euros doing the $100 HUSNG thing, no doubt.

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Playing poker for a living is mostly a dream perpetuated by variance that shows some as winning players. Only a very, very small (read pretty close to nonexistent) percentage of people can actually make an income from playing poker.

The main thing is the small percentage that is smart enough to make a living from poker could make an infinitely better living doing something else. That small percentage could almost certainly make said living in a much more enjoyable and rewarding atmosphere.

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HostileRaise wrote:
Playing poker for a living is mostly a dream perpetuated by variance that shows some as winning players. Only a very, very small (read pretty close to nonexistent) percentage of people can actually make an income from playing poker.

The main thing is the small percentage that is smart enough to make a living from poker could make an infinitely better living doing something else. That small percentage could almost certainly make said living in a much more enjoyable and rewarding atmosphere.



from 2005-2008 I made a really good living playing poker and am definitely a winning player by a large amount. The only problem was, I was a huge degenerate with a serious drug problem.

I blew through over 300k in those 4 years and every penny I made was from poker. I honestly think I could still make a living playing all Hu turbos sngs. I have never been on a site I didn't absolutely crush.

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HostileRaise wrote:
Playing poker for a living is mostly a dream perpetuated by variance that shows some as winning players. Only a very, very small (read pretty close to nonexistent) percentage of people can actually make an income from playing poker.

The main thing is the small percentage that is smart enough to make a living from poker could make an infinitely better living doing something else. That small percentage could almost certainly make said living in a much more enjoyable and rewarding atmosphere.


An absurdly cogent post.

That said, Weiss is legit gifted at those HUSNGs, and Euros dont seem to be evolving at the same rate as the existing, active US poker player market, which is basically gotten insanely good or gone absurdly broke a long time ago.

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WeissMAN wrote:
HostileRaise wrote:
Playing poker for a living is mostly a dream perpetuated by variance that shows some as winning players. Only a very, very small (read pretty close to nonexistent) percentage of people can actually make an income from playing poker.

The main thing is the small percentage that is smart enough to make a living from poker could make an infinitely better living doing something else. That small percentage could almost certainly make said living in a much more enjoyable and rewarding atmosphere.



from 2005-2008 I made a really good living playing poker and am definitely a winning player by a large amount. The only problem was, I was a huge degenerate with a serious drug problem.

I blew through over 300k in those 4 years and every penny I made was from poker. I honestly think I could still make a living playing all Hu turbos sngs. I have never been on a site I didn't absolutely crush.



Yeah I hear ya, and my post wasn't meant to doubt your ability. I do think the game has changed dramatically since 2008, though obviously I have no fucking clue if you are still capable of beating the games or not.

With that being said my main point is still the same. If you can beat it, then you are sharp enough to make way more doing many other things. I don't know about you, but depending on poker for a living is what brought my degeneracy straight out into the forefront. I personally prefer it to be hid just a little, though it is fun to release it at times.

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HostileRaise wrote:
WeissMAN wrote:
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Playing poker for a living is mostly a dream perpetuated by variance that shows some as winning players. Only a very, very small (read pretty close to nonexistent) percentage of people can actually make an income from playing poker.

The main thing is the small percentage that is smart enough to make a living from poker could make an infinitely better living doing something else. That small percentage could almost certainly make said living in a much more enjoyable and rewarding atmosphere.



from 2005-2008 I made a really good living playing poker and am definitely a winning player by a large amount. The only problem was, I was a huge degenerate with a serious drug problem.

I blew through over 300k in those 4 years and every penny I made was from poker. I honestly think I could still make a living playing all Hu turbos sngs. I have never been on a site I didn't absolutely crush.



Yeah I hear ya, and my post wasn't meant to doubt your ability. I do think the game has changed dramatically since 2008, though obviously I have no fucking clue if you are still capable of beating the games or not.

With that being said my main point is still the same. If you can beat it, then you are sharp enough to make way more doing many other things. I don't know about you, but depending on poker for a living is what brought my degeneracy straight out into the forefront. I personally prefer it to be hid just a little, though it is fun to release it at times.



Yeah, I only play casually now, but still kill the HU sngs, but I do have a real job now engineering. So, I know what you're saying.

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HostileRaise wrote:
The main thing is the small percentage that is smart enough to make a living from poker could make an infinitely better living doing something else.


I agree for most part with rest of your post, but unless that "infinitely better living" involves working less than 20 hours per week, no.

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Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?

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they bitch if i start drinking so i have pretty much exiled myself to the guest bedroom at my dad's house to kill time on the laptop. plus it's raining and cold outside so i can't go out trail riding on the 4 wheeler like i normally would


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i_did_a_poopy wrote:
Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?



Totally depends on your motivation level. For me, yes. That's why you'll see me play for a month and disappear. I just haven't cared enough. But I think if I really stuck with it and stuck to my levels I could kill it over a long period of time. It's just a huge sacrifice because the key to hu sngs is volume volume volume

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WeissMAN wrote:
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Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?



Totally depends on your motivation level. For me, yes. That's why you'll see me play for a month and disappear. I just haven't cared enough. But I think if I really stuck with it and stuck to my levels I could kill it over a long period of time. It's just a huge sacrifice because the key to hu sngs is volume volume volume


Thats the same "key" to pretty much all jobs that aren't salaried. The more you work, the more you get paid. Nice "key" you dumbfuck.

What an engineer you must make... rofl.. :facepalm :noose


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fuhoser wrote:
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i_did_a_poopy wrote:
Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?



Totally depends on your motivation level. For me, yes. That's why you'll see me play for a month and disappear. I just haven't cared enough. But I think if I really stuck with it and stuck to my levels I could kill it over a long period of time. It's just a huge sacrifice because the key to hu sngs is volume volume volume


Thats the same "key" to pretty much all jobs that aren't salaried. The more you work, the more you get paid. Nice "key" you dumbfuck.

What an engineer you must make... rofl.. :facepalm :noose


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WeissMAN wrote:
i_did_a_poopy wrote:
Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?



Totally depends on your motivation level. For me, yes. That's why you'll see me play for a month and disappear. I just haven't cared enough. But I think if I really stuck with it and stuck to my levels I could kill it over a long period of time. It's just a huge sacrifice because the key to hu sngs is volume volume volume



keep in mind motivation level, burnout factor, and everything else are all part of the equation. From reading forums it seems a common theme is people who win playing poker think they can just multiply what they have won by how many hours they wish they played and equate that to how much they think they can earn.

I've been working on playing more hours since playing live full time again and am trying to be real consistent about it. I'm been playing 30ish hours a week (being dealt in). People seem to do the math with 40 hours, which is a lot harder than I think people realize to play consistently. I'm pretty sure if I upped my hours to 40 every week, I wouldn't make an extra 25% of added income. In fact, there is a chance I may make less.

So, when for instance you take time off, you may be costing yourself money, or you may be saving yourself money. Either way it is probably a bad assessment to just multiply what you made when you felt like playing and assume you would make the same if you played when you didn't feel like it.

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Epistate wrote:
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Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?



Totally depends on your motivation level. For me, yes. That's why you'll see me play for a month and disappear. I just haven't cared enough. But I think if I really stuck with it and stuck to my levels I could kill it over a long period of time. It's just a huge sacrifice because the key to hu sngs is volume volume volume



keep in mind motivation level, burnout factor, and everything else are all part of the equation. From reading forums it seems a common theme is people who win playing poker think they can just multiply what they have won by how many hours they wish they played and equate that to how much they think they can earn.

I've been working on playing more hours since playing live full time again and am trying to be real consistent about it. I'm been playing 30ish hours a week (being dealt in). People seem to do the math with 40 hours, which is a lot harder than I think people realize to play consistently. I'm pretty sure if I upped my hours to 40 every week, I wouldn't make an extra 25% of added income. In fact, there is a chance I may make less.

So, when for instance you take time off, you may be costing yourself money, or you may be saving yourself money. Either way it is probably a bad assessment to just multiply what you made when you felt like playing and assume you would make the same if you played when you didn't feel like it.


Really good post, just because you up your hours in live play doesnt necessarily mean you are adding to your hourly rate. It's all dependent on game selection, the best games operate at specific hours and you as a player obviously would prefer to play at those hours. If you come in early or stay to late that doesn't mean you are quantifying your expectation, you could be reducing it.

nice post epistate.


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I mean I may be biased since half the people I know play for a living but I'm pretty sure most people could learn to earn a decent living from playing poker. As far as making an infinitely better living doing something else if you're capable of being pro not sure that's true at all. I can't think of a single thing that pays six figures working part time, where you set your own hours, work from anywhere, that I'd actually enjoy doing that I'm anywhere close to qualified for. I don't know why you think the lifestyle isn't enjoyable.

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HostileRaise wrote:
Playing poker for a living is mostly a dream perpetuated by variance that shows some as winning players. Only a very, very small (read pretty close to nonexistent) percentage of people can actually make an income from playing poker.

The main thing is the small percentage that is smart enough to make a living from poker could make an infinitely better living doing something else. That small percentage could almost certainly make said living in a much more enjoyable and rewarding atmosphere.


I guess I have been living a dream perpetuated by variance for about 6 years straight then.

Also, I can't think of one single other job I could get that I would enjoy more, work fewer hours, or make more (or the same) money than I can by playing poker for a living.

To suggest that the people who are making a living from poker is only possible because they have been on the positive side of variance is ridiculous.


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fuhoser wrote:
WeissMAN wrote:
i_did_a_poopy wrote:
Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?



Totally depends on your motivation level. For me, yes. That's why you'll see me play for a month and disappear. I just haven't cared enough. But I think if I really stuck with it and stuck to my levels I could kill it over a long period of time. It's just a huge sacrifice because the key to hu sngs is volume volume volume


Thats the same "key" to pretty much all jobs that aren't salaried. The more you work, the more you get paid. Nice "key" you dumbfuck.

What an engineer you must make... rofl.. :facepalm :noose




If you knew anything about Hu sngs and weren't some bum that lived from motel to motel like white trash, you would have a clue, but you're not.

Nice post troll

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Epistate wrote:
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i_did_a_poopy wrote:
Weiss, isn;t there some burnout factor playing husngs exclusively?



Totally depends on your motivation level. For me, yes. That's why you'll see me play for a month and disappear. I just haven't cared enough. But I think if I really stuck with it and stuck to my levels I could kill it over a long period of time. It's just a huge sacrifice because the key to hu sngs is volume volume volume



keep in mind motivation level, burnout factor, and everything else are all part of the equation. From reading forums it seems a common theme is people who win playing poker think they can just multiply what they have won by how many hours they wish they played and equate that to how much they think they can earn.

I've been working on playing more hours since playing live full time again and am trying to be real consistent about it. I'm been playing 30ish hours a week (being dealt in). People seem to do the math with 40 hours, which is a lot harder than I think people realize to play consistently. I'm pretty sure if I upped my hours to 40 every week, I wouldn't make an extra 25% of added income. In fact, there is a chance I may make less.

So, when for instance you take time off, you may be costing yourself money, or you may be saving yourself money. Either way it is probably a bad assessment to just multiply what you made when you felt like playing and assume you would make the same if you played when you didn't feel like it.



Thats what I mean though. Everyone has different motivation/focus levels. Some people may be comfortable with 40 hours and some 30. Some 10. It all depends on the individual.

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Game selection is the toughest part of playing husng's. Playing other formats gives a better chance to find fish....and keep them at the table.

Also, this graph belongs to a very good high stakes HUSNG player, who is well known from DD radio. This is why HU SNG's are not the best idea. I would like to hear from the player herself to hear what happened.

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i find it hard that anyone would be able to maintain a 70% win rate in HU sng matches over an extended period of time. if variance doesn't fuck you the juice will.

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