when the robbery occurred they were about to deal the river of an all in situation. some guy was ahead in chips but behind with a bricked flop and turn with a10 against like aj or aq. the td let them decide to just take back what they had or go to the river, and the guy behind decided to be nice and let the hand play out and bricked the river and doubled up his opponent. he's now cl with 3 people left.

Which is why Euro guns laws are stupid. You can't wave a magic wand via laws and have them all go away.

The fact there isn't an highly visible, armed police presence at ALL poker events is a crime within itself. Look at the WSOP, they bring out the Nevada State Troopers with the shotguns. That's how you deter this shit from happening.

LOL at the dude with the machete.

y I read that update on Pnews - the TD decided to let the 2 players decide if they wanted to run the situation as best they could back it up or just return all chips from the hand.

the CL did the "right thing" and gave his opponent the equity going into the river.

Also read about the extra 300k in tourney chips added to the "mess table" when there were 700k in the center and 2 players claiming they had 500k before the robbery started.

I don't like the adding of 300k, but I don't believe this has ever happened before to a real, professionally run poker tournament, so I guess precedent has been set Matt Savage!

Remind me never to play poker in Europe! I never knew this happened at the WPT that made Tony G famous.

http://www.gambling-poker.com/grand_pri ... sults.html

any reliable source that said how much $ they made off with?

Granted, this story is from a Google translation, but it looks like around 240K Euro, sick pictures as well. It appears Roman saved around 500K Euro, seen in the bag in the picture below:



The web page also says that a poker player may have been an accomplice, as when the players had just paid their fee (assuming for the high rollers event) and the money was unguarded for a few minutes when it was going to go from the registration booth to the vault, is the exact moment the dudes came in. Plus, there are reports a glove was found at the scene.

Interview with security guy
Q: Where were you when the robbery began?

A: I was standing in the foyer when four men came up the stairs screaming
loud. Two of my four colleagues were out for a break. This indicates
planning on the part of the robbers.

Q: Were they armed?

Yes, one had a machete, another one a black revolver.

Q: You have a little wound above your eye. How come?

A: One of the villains attacked me with a machete, he hit me near the eye.

Q: Why were you attacked?

A: Right in the beginning I hit one of the robbers as he ran by me, so
he lost his revolver. Then the one with the machete came and hit me.
Luckily I could turn my head sideways, so he didn't hit me too badly.
After that two of the four villains fled, and my two colleagues chased
them. I remained behind with the two other villains. They were behind
the counter, filling money into their big leather bag. I then threw a
money cassette and a metal rack at them.

Q: How did the villains react?

A: The one with hte pistol jumped up and aimed at me. Obviously, I
jumped to the side at first. After that, they happily continued
collecting money. Then as they were trying to flee, I went after the
one with the weapon, and got a hold of him. Luckily a hotel guy came
to my assistance. Unfortunately, the guy with the machete came back,
and I wasn't in the mood to handle him as well, so I let them go. I
was unarmed, after all. The bag with the money remained in the hotel.

Q: How did you get the courage for your intervention?

A: You don't think of anything in particular at that moment, you're just
doing your job. And my job was to protect the money. So that's what I
did. I'll probably start shivering tonight, when I realize what has
happened. I used to work for the Berlin Police and I learned to
fight there. But nothing like this has ever happened to me.

Q: How long did the robbery take?

A: You lose your sense of time in such a situation. It felt like
eternity. Even now in the evening, I'm still pumped up with adrenaline.

Basically:

On MSN home page right now says they got away with over 1million.

The US's murder rate is more than 6 times Germany's.

I'm at a loss of words to describe how bad-ass these guy seems.

DONE

You now have 10% of the site's profit from the date it opened until today.

I will PM you with how much money you owe us. Please send us the suggestions, as you promised, along with your payment.

Gun control proponents are incredibly naive.

Instituting gun control in America would especially be a disaster, since there are already so many guns out there, and it would be impossible to collect them all back.

Unless you can ensure that guns will be out of EVERYONE'S hands except the police (which is impossible), gun control does not work. In fact, it just emboldens criminals, as they know they won't run into return fire when committing crimes.

HEY MICON.........

I just heared that Chad Brown was there in the tourney in Berlin...!!!
Sure you might know some one to get a hold of him.
Not sure if he was still in at that point, but he was there...
Just a thought.

What about the casino robbery rate?

There are countless embarrassing crime stories that come out of Europe. Not only do criminals get away with brazen crimes way more easily than they do in the U.S., but the police fail to ultimately catch them in most cases.

I'll say one thing for our country. We may have a lot more crime, but we're a hell of a lot better at bringing the responsible parties to justice.

This is an unfair comparison because these are two completely different societies with completely different crime statistics.

You bought a gun recently, Barry.

Why?

Because you're a smart guy, and realized that it's safer to have one than be without one. Same reason I have one.

If the U.S. instituted gun control, would you feel safe from the criminal element in Las Vegas? I wouldn't feel a bit safer. In fact, I'd feel a hell of a lot more scared -- even if I kept my own gun.

1) Our population is 307,006,550. Theirs is 82,140,043. Our lung cancer rate is higher as well, 36% to 12.2%. Where's the activism to ban cigarettes?

2) Don't blame the second amendment for the gun lobbyists pushing lax gun laws allowing illegal guns to get into the hands of criminals and idiots without proper pre-screening, or allowing the sale of military issued weapons at WalMart, or to bribe officials to pass stupid laws like allowing people to bring concealed weapons into bars, or the fact some states allow illegal immigrants to get a permit to have firearms. It's a slap in the face of every gun owner who is responsible and does things the right way to CHOOSE how they want to protect their home, especially in the state of Nevada, ask Doyle Brunson.

That's a corruption problem that Jefferson didn't have in mind when he wrote the Constitution.

3) If humans want to kill, they will kill. The firearm is probably one of the most destructive things the human species ever created, but so was the bow and arrow, and the missle (both phallic in nature, go figure).

I understand the anti-gun movement, especially growing up in a family with a father as a cop as well as growing up in inner-city Boston, where the sale of illegal narcotics almost turned Boston into a shithole during the 1970's and 80's (until the FBI raids of 1991).

But to suggest less guns=less crime is just an argument I can't support; b/c as we saw with the robbers and the machete, if they want to use violence to get what they want, they will.

The fact the security guards can't carry a single fucking piece guarding a poker tournament with over 1 million dollars is an epic fail IMO and as Druff mentioned, one of these things, especially in a recession where stakes are high, is just asking to get robbed. The security guy THREW A BOOK AT HIM; he's lucky these guys were most likely unprofessional degenerates trying to gaffe some loot, and not a real criminal who would have most likely shot and killed him (nevermind the fact they should of just let them have the money and run and protect the safety of the people in the building, instead of trying to fight back). The players are lucky the perpitrators wanted just money, and not to massacre people.

I wish I could take a magic wand and eliminate every gun off the face of the planet, and maybe even call up the peace fairy on speed dial and take away humans' aggressive instincts that we obv inherited via evolution.

But we can't, so we, IMO, have the god given right to protect ourselves.

Update on the robbers. Apparently according to a Swedish website, police have leads from the fact these idiots ate at a McDonald's before the heist lmao

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35849559/ns ... ws-europe/

Police: Suspect in poker heist released
Gun-toting thieves stormed tournament, stole $328,000

Berlin police said Saturday they had released a man previously suspected of taking part in the storming last weekend of a poker tournament in which armed robbers made off with €240,000 ($328,000) in jackpot money.

A spokeswoman for Berlin police — who did not give her name in keeping with department policy — said the suspect had been set free due to a lack of evidence. The suspect, who was detained late Friday, denied throughout several hours in questioning having taken part in the heist at the Grand Hyatt hotel in the capital.

Police declined to identify the man or give any further details, citing the ongoing investigation.

German authorities have been hunting for four suspects who, armed with machetes and handguns, stormed the poker tournament in broad daylight last Saturday in downtown Berlin, stunning the participants and the audience.

Images of the masked men were captured on surveillance cameras.

According to the European Poker tour, the jackpot for the tournament stood at €1 million ($1.36 million).