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Collusion or just plain stupid??? 
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PokerStars Game #3547935928: Hold'em Limit ($30/$60) - 2006/01/06 - 02:27:56 (ET)
Table 'Montague' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Trip N Up ($5982 in chips)
Seat 2: bentinck113 ($777 in chips)
Seat 3: meckwell ($999 in chips)
Seat 4: Cenotaph ($3556 in chips)
Seat 5: slothwear ($181 in chips)
Seat 7: rZn187 ($1341 in chips)
Seat 8: AgnstAllOdds ($1363 in chips)
Seat 9: monkey38 ($642 in chips)
Seat 10: pucko ($2604 in chips)
slothwear: posts small blind $15
rZn187: posts big blind $30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rZn187 [7h 7s]
AgnstAllOdds: raises $30 to $60
pucko said, ";)"
monkey38: folds
pucko: raises $30 to $90
Trip N Up: folds
bentinck113: folds
meckwell: folds
Cenotaph: folds
slothwear: folds
rZn187 said, "NIZe"
rZn187: calls $60
AgnstAllOdds: raises $30 to $120
Betting is capped
pucko: calls $30
rZn187: calls $30
*** FLOP *** [7c Ks Jh]
rZn187: checks
AgnstAllOdds: bets $30
pucko: raises $30 to $60
rZn187: calls $60
AgnstAllOdds: calls $30
*** TURN *** [7c Ks Jh] [Qs]
rZn187: checks
AgnstAllOdds: bets $60
pucko: raises $60 to $120
rZn187: calls $120
AgnstAllOdds: calls $60
*** RIVER *** [7c Ks Jh Qs] [Qh]
rZn187: checks
AgnstAllOdds: bets $60
pucko: raises $60 to $120
rZn187: folds
pucko said, "noo"
AgnstAllOdds: folds
rZn187 said, "sucko"
pucko collected $1032 from pot
pucko: doesn't show hand
rZn187 said, "show plz?"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1035 | Rake $3
Board [7c Ks Jh Qs Qh]
Seat 1: Trip N Up folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bentinck113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: meckwell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Cenotaph (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: slothwear (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: rZn187 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: AgnstAllOdds folded on the River
Seat 9: monkey38 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: pucko collected ($1032)


you tell me, it's pretty fucking retardded that this idiot would keep re raising and then after i fold he decides to fucking fold, GAY. I sent in to stars to ask them about it, cuz it's really fucking pissing me off.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:05 am
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Dude, seriously, why on earth do you not raise that flop and an even bigger wtf when you fold when you fill up on the river?!?!?

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:09 am
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8O you didn't even pay that off?

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:09 am
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I honestly would not have been able to get away from that hand.

Anyway, yeah, looks colluision-y..

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:09 am
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Am I missing something? You flopped a set, and rivered the boat and check folded the river? I just looked at it again, I'm sure I'm missing something.


Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:09 am
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not asking for critique of my play.

the guy had Q's and J's, but if i would have calld it would have got re raised again, just look at the fucking betting paterns.

I dont call off stupid shit, and i didnt wanna re raise flop becuz the 2 were raising so weirdly i wanted to play a bit safer.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:13 am
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187_HoMiCiDe wrote:
not asking for critique of my play.

the guy had Q's and J's, but if i would have calld it would have got re raised again, just look at the fucking betting paterns.

I dont call off stupid shit, and i didnt wanna re raise flop becuz the 2 were raising so weirdly i wanted to play a bit safer.


You flop a set on a board with 2 broadway cards. I'm sorry man, and I'm really not trying to be a dick here, but I think the hand was terribly misplayed. I don't know about collusion, but I think you HAVE to at least call that river.

BTW, how do you know he had Q's full? He didn't show.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:15 am
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Ok...if you are not looking for any critiques of your play...I need to quit watching right now...

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:18 am
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i cant see the fold in that spot either. I think you had odds to call it down.

it has to be +ev to call that down in limit.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:18 am
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The thing is if i call that river which i think caused my beat, which it did. If i call $120, it will get capped meaning i will lose $240 FOUR FUCKING BB's that i dont need to lose... Will take me atleast 2 more hours to make up that ground

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:19 am
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Wrong your going to win that more than you lose. $240 with the way you have been playing is nothing. I have been watching for hours now and your play hints of weak agression.

You have been calling down worse hands all night now you just know he had qj there. I think you are dead wrong in that play.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:23 am
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I dont know that they reraise the river it went

Call, Raise, You call, 1st call

and even if they do reraise the river at that point, if you are that worried about it being a collusion factor, stars is pretty good at catching it and shipping some of the money back.


Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:24 am
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Um, you hit your fullhouse on the river and folded. I must not be playing the game correctly. 8O

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:27 am
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ECDub wrote:
Um, you hit your fullhouse on the river and folded. I must not be playing the game correctly. 8O


collusion??


Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:29 am
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by folding you now have no way of knowing if it was collusion or not since you didnt see the hands. If you call and one had qj and the other has Ax or some shit like that then its obv collusion and you can let stars know.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:29 am
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You have to know your players. AganstAllOdds is a complete maniac. Doubtful collusion. U were prolly beat, but with the nutty play I've seen lately in 30-60 I would've called river. Oh, and if you were beat it was before the river.


Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:30 am
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even a capped river you get 4-1.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:31 am
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Its seriously pissing me off that he is trying to defend that play. I knew he didnt belong in the 30/60. Even i know to call that down. If it was no limit then i could see a fold for a hugh bet even then i call, buit at least i could respect the fold. but four fucking bb is just assclowny

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:34 am
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Judging by the 2 games I just saw you playing, you need some work in game selection bro.

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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:36 am
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its' a mixed game it has good playrs and some TERRRIBLE players, usually if i see a few TERRIBLE players goin at it rsmig and some of the others soon come also or beat me 2 them

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