Mayweather should beat Cotto pretty easily.

Canelo is tough, but he's way too green for a guy like Mayweather. He defense is basically non existent. He's tough as nails, though. He's got a style to give Cotto problems. If Cotto can box him for 12 rounds without gassing, he beats Avlarez.

After the Klitschko Chisora fight Haye turns up at the press conference and all hell breaks loose! Bald guy who is bleeding is Haye's trainer.

Dereck Chisora is a piece of shit, but David Haye is the biggest piece of shit in boxing and I can't wait to see Chisora or Vitali knock him the fuck out. Motherfucking scumbag.

I despise David Haye, but Chisora is a fucking disgrace. Spitting on people, slapping Vitali at the weigh in (which I did laugh at, in all honesty). It adds some drama to the division, but it's the wrong kind of attention, imo.

That said, I think he'll beat the shit out of Haye.

Hex, did you see the Williams/Ishida fight? I didn't catch it. Reads like Williams dominated, but still had pretty non existent defense. Looks like he's just always going to be a defenseless, volume puncher. Seems that he has no desire to attempt to change.

Also, Devon Alexander -170 over Maidana this weekend.

Yes, I saw Williams and thought he looked very good for the first time in quite a while. Of course, he was fighting a very limited opponent who I expected him to beat, but I was still impressed and somewhat surprised by how good he looked. His defense will never be great, but he wasn't getting hit a lot and was completely dominant. It at least makes me want to see him fight again, which I didn't think would ever be the case.

Campillo got robbed against Cloud. Boxing is such a disgrace.

Also, you're right about Chisora - he's a disgusting thug. I just hate Haye a bit more because everything he says is a lie. He's just so delusional. And yes, Chisora would annihilate him.

Watch this sick fuckin knockout:

Holy crap. His shit completely shut down. Out before he ever hit the mat.

Yeah, textbook, with the flailing arms and twitching legs. Shit was sick as fuck.

LAS VEGAS – Manny Pacquiao was upstairs in the bedroom of his suite at the MGM Grand over the weekend, catching a nap after a long day of giving a deposition in a defamation lawsuit he filed in 2010 against fellow superstar boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr.

A little after 5 p.m., his dinner of steak, rice and asparagus was delivered, where it sat, untouched, for nearly 90 minutes. Finally, Pacquiao slowly, sleepily made his way down the stairs. He greeted me with a wan smile and headed to the dining room table. He bowed his head in silent prayer, then poured steak sauce over his food.

He didn’t dig in immediately, and was almost like a child forced by his parents to stay at the table until he cleared his plate. He ran his fork aimlessly through the rice, not seeming particularly hungry or eager to talk.

It wasn’t until the subject of a potential bout with Mayweather came up – the topic that no one fails to raise with him – that he seemed to awaken. Suddenly, Pacquiao shook the sleep from his eyes to defend himself against an incessant Mayweather campaign that has painted him as a reluctant warrior.

In the weeks before Mayweather announced Jan. 31 that he would fight Miguel Cotto at the MGM Grand Garden on May 5, Mayweather waged a public campaign for a bout with Pacquiao. He posted on Twitter and spoke at news conferences, using every opportunity to make it seem that Pacquiao was avoiding the big match.

Mayweather, it was suggested to Pacquiao, is winning the public relations contest handily, at least in the U.S. At that, Pacquiao looked up from his plate and put down his fork. His eyes widened and he leaned forward, staring intently across the table.

“He talks, he says all this, but you know what: He doesn’t want the fight,” Pacquiao firmly told Yahoo! Sports in an exclusive interview. “I want the fight. I’m the one who has wanted this fight all along.”

Not long after he was granted a conditional boxing license by the Nevada Athletic Commission to fight Cotto, Mayweather made a big deal of Pacquiao turning down a $40 million guarantee to fight him.

But Pacquiao said that was simply a bluff, a public relations stunt that didn’t bear any semblance to reality.

“He offered me $40 million, and no pay-per-view [money],” Pacquiao said, breaking into a laugh. “No pay-per-view. Can you believe that? Would you do that? Come on. What would he say if I offered him $50 million – not $40 million, $50 million – and said ‘No pay-per-view. Take this money and be happy, but no pay-per-view.’ He wouldn’t do it, either.”

The fight, if it ever happens, would pit the two best fighters and the two biggest draws in the sport against one another. It would likely generate more than $160 million in pay-per-view revenue in the U.S. alone.



Mayweather phoned Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz in the Philippines on Jan. 19 and asked to speak to Pacquiao. Mayweather then told Pacquiao he’d offer him $40 million, which Mayweather later told the media “is far more than he’s ever made.”

Pacquiao said he wanted to fight, but that $40 million flat wasn’t nearly fair.

“I told him, ‘OK, 50-50 [with the money] and I’ll agree to everything else,’ ” Pacquiao said. “I told him I would agree to all of the other things he was demanding. Everything. Even the blood testing he wanted, I would do it. But it had to be 50-50.”

Pacquiao said he told Koncz to offer Mayweather a guarantee of $50 million with the rest of the revenue being split, with 55 percent going to the winner and 45 percent going to the loser.

There was no response from Mayweather’s side, Pacquiao said.

“Manny authorized me to do that and I went forward with it, but it went nowhere,” Koncz said. “That was it.”

Mayweather’s manager, Leonard Ellerbe, denied such an offer was made and suggested it was a stunt dreamed up by Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum.

Ellerbe said, “Pacquiao is lying” about the offer and said the conversation with Mayweather lasted only two minutes.

“What Manny Pacquiao has to understand, and I don’t think he understands this part, is that if the fight ever comes off, he’ll never make the kind of money that Floyd makes,” Ellerbe said. “That’s simply because of the structure of his terrible deal with his promoter.

“[Pacquiao] is a guy who doesn’t know what he makes fight to fight. He has no idea of where the revenue comes from. There’s no way he’s going to come up with something like that [offer] off the top of his dome.”

Pacquiao said that once Mayweather came to an agreement to fight Cotto, he chose Bradley over Juan Manuel Marquez because he thought it would be better business.

Pacquiao and Marquez have fought three times, most recently Nov. 12, with Pacquiao winning the last two after the first was a draw. Arum said after the Nov. 12 match, which many believe Marquez deserved to win, that he’d probably arrange a rematch.

As Pacquiao considered his options for his next fight, he thought it would be best to put distance between the fights.

“Would you want to see the same movie again?” he said.

The movie may not have been the same had Pacquiao been at his best for Marquez. Pacquiao said Saturday that he “underestimated” Marquez and that he didn’t do plyometrics training.

Pacquiao and Marquez fought to a draw at featherweight in 2004, then Pacquiao won a split decision in a super featherweight bout in 2008. Marquez had only moved up to lightweight since then, while Pacquiao became a full-fledged welterweight.

In Marquez’s only fight above lightweight prior to meeting Pacquiao on Nov. 12, he was routed at welterweight by Mayweather. It was clear in the Mayweather fight that he was too small for the division.

That clearly didn’t escape Pacquiao’s notice.

“I underestimated him,” Pacquiao said. “I thought he was small, and that I would have no problems. It was a mistake. I shouldn’t have underestimated him.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=k ... ons_022012

Mayweather's $40 million dollar offer was never serious.
If a fight was to happen between Pacquiao and Mayweather it should be a $100 million dollar purse and winner take all, the rest of the money generated from the fight should be donated to charity.
But this fantasy will never happen, Bob Arum will never let Pacquiao fight Mayweather anyway.
And Mayweather seriously doesn't want to fight Pacquiao.

Maybe after Mayweather loses very dollar he has in 5 years, he will beg Pacquiao to come out of retirement and resign as President of the Philippines for one last fight...Pacquaio will look at him and say "Fuck You"

Doesn't matter much now, anyway. They both have fights coming up. Then Mayweather has jail (lol). So he's not likely to fight anymore this year. We're looking at early 2013 most likely. And even then, who knows. If any of them wanted this fight very badly, we would have already seen it.

Some decent action tonight.

Alexander -170 over Maidana
Alexander -115 by decision

Povetkin by decision +135 over Huck

Broner by decision +218 over Perez

Maidana needs a KO to win, that much we know. I think if Alexander doesn't gas out and get KO'd in the later rounds, he wins a clear UD.

Matthysse and Kotelnyk beat up on Devon, but I don't believe Maidana is the "boxer" that either of those two are. He'll keep coming, and he'll bring the fight, but he has to have a KO. No way he's winning a decision in St. Louis. 10 rounds helps a lot, too.

Just a small bet on Povetkin decision. Almost played small on Huck, but don't really know what to expect from Huck at HW. Giving up about 20 pounds.

I'm hoping too much stock is being put into Broner's last 2 knockouts. It really just depends on which Broner shows up. If it gets tough in there for him, he'll go back to his moving, pot shotting ways, and bring in a decision.

All your bets seem smart to me, though I have a feeling that at some point Maidana might catch Alexander and turn his lights out. Devon seems a bit fragile. Maybe moving to 147 will help in that regard, or maybe it will do the opposite. Pretty interesting fight, I must say.

That was a hell of a fight. I had it a draw, and there's no way Povetkin won 8 rounds, but I could see giving it to him by a point, maybe 2. Huck was very impressive. Nice cash, jmm.

Povetkin wins a majority decision. Almost certainly will be cries of robbery from team Huck. But, about half of his landed punches were behind the head. Amazed he didn't lose a point.

Close fight. Sloppy, sloppy fight... but close. I scored it for Huck by 1 round.

Povetkin is SEVERELY out of shape. Either Klitschko would absolutely murk his ass.

Thanks. Hopefully more to come.

jmm=boxing god, this def is the best running thread on d.d.( i look forward to resuming these discussions on the venom boxing thread!)...have a weird feeling about alexander/maidana fight i kinda like maidana in the upset feeling like a 7-8th round k.o. call me crazy i just got a gut feeling about this one

Appreciate it, badbilly.

I wish you good health on the Maidana prediction, lol. I think if Alexander can keep from gassing, his speed is going to give Maidana a whole world of problems.

Remember to mute your television, so you don't have to hear Alexander bark every time he throws a punch.