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2/22/2011 Meeting with Travis Makar 
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the wife and I met Travis Makar and his wife at a bar this evening, as Travis said he wanted to show us a small nugget of the information he was in possession of. If you listened to Travis call in on the 2/16/2011 DD Radio show (see transcript-interview-with-travis-makar-donkdown-radio-2011-t79592.html), I can now say that I am very confident that he has the "holy grail" of UB cheating evidence. We spoke for over 2 hours, and I am going to list a handful of the items shown and told to me by Travis:


-- Travis said that many Hand Histories that were sent out to cheated UB players were doctored. He claims this was a very laborious process.

-- Travis claims to have the complete NioNio HH's. He showed me pages upon pages of the raw UB .txt files that are (were) their hand history system. I believe him to have the full Nio Nio HH's.

-- He claims (and I believe) that he has full HH records on other cheating accounts

-- The cheating program itself was much like the old UB client. If you had the program, you needed a special login and password and it would display any table you opened with all the hands face up. The program was referred to as "god mode" and was frequently emailed to superusers after a UB software update came down, sometimes with lol names such as "divinebet.zip" Travis showed us 3 different emails where this information was sent out among UB people. He had blacked out the names of the sender and recipients of these emails.

-- Travis claims that he knew of at least four (4) different people to have used the cheating program.

-- Travis says that Charles Woodrow "Woody" Moore is not a cheater

-- Travis says that Fred David is not a cheater

-- Travis Makar showed me two (of which he said there were many) Western Union payment records to Zoltan Rozsa (revealed by UB investigator Haley Hintze as "Brainwashdodo") - one on 6/8/2009 and one on 5/17/2010 both times the sum was between $5k-$7k. Travis said that Zoltan has been paid many times, in many different forms, sometimes a person flying to Costa Rica to hand him cash directly

-- The one piece of hard evidence Travis let me keep was part of this email from Paul Leggett to Zoltan Rozsa, which to me it seems like Paul Leggett is more than willing to pay extortion money to Zoltan, the only question is how much:

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He also showed us emails from that same day (6/30/2008) where Paul emailed Zoltan stating that Paul was in Canada and would be until Wednesday. In the email, Paul stated that he was not concerned about Zoltan's threats but would like to meet Zoltan in person to discuss the issues. The email addresses are not included here or in the attachment above, but Martha and I viewed them privately and wrote them down.

there you have it, will answer questions tomorrow on DD radio and I will likely remember more from the 2+ hr conversation.

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Please note that I was the one who hand wrote the date on the Paul / Zoltan email posted above. I asked Travis if we could have that document to post. He agreed and tore that portion out of his email print outs to give us that part. Bryan and I both viewed the date (6/30/2008) and the email addresses of Paul and Zoltan, as well as a few other emails exchanged between the two on the same date.


Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:46 am
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Nice work micons, solid gold here, also did you speak with travis about possibly a pool of players that would be willing to purchase this evidence from him? According to UB they still stay i won 6800 or something from the superusers...


Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:53 am
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tommyboy83 wrote:
Nice work micons, solid gold here, also did you speak with travis about possibly a pool of players that would be willing to purchase this evidence from him? According to UB they still stay i won 6800 or something from the superusers...


your endless rungood never ceases to amaze me.

Travis said he had gotten offers of $2M to sell the data in his possession. He is worried that it is illegal and he would then not have any protection from the evil UB forces if he dumped that data.

more on this tomorrow on radio.

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Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:58 am
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Micon, Martha and Travis

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GodSpeed and keep up the good work


Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:06 am
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Paul Leggett was interviewed on P5s one month after the email above -

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/pau ... al-311150/

Though the investigation into the cheating on Ultimate Bet may have taken longer than many would have expected, Leggett claims that the company is doing all it can to resolve the situation: “There has never been any cover up in our investigation. We’ve made two statements listing the accounts that were involved and we made another statement last week regarding the completion of our investigation. We handed our findings over to the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.”


Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:13 am
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How can you express a word with such luster, wow would be an understatement. Glad Travis has a solid shoulder on his head, anyone in poker who gives him shit that wasn't in on it is a fucking moron.


Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:17 am
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"tip of the iceberg" is the understatement of the century.

Hopefully there is more to come.


Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:38 am
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micon wrote:
Travis said he had gotten offers of $2M to sell the data in his possession. He is worried that it is illegal and he would then not have any protection from the evil UB forces if he dumped that data. more on this tomorrow on radio.


No way...if Travis got $2 million he would be on an Island in the Caribbean, instead of St. George, Utah.

I sure that Travis is concerned that Paul Leggett and his bodyguards will pay him a visit.
Obviously, he wants to blackmail the other scammers involved.
Fine, he should do that...then release the records anyway.


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Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:50 am
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God mode is god

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Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:27 am
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Questions for DD Radio Tomorrow

(expect your biggest live audience ever)

How much AP dirt does Travis have? So far it seems he is focused on the UB side of things....

Was the $2 million offer from another site? Was it a player looking for the truth? Was is from someone with better blackmail skillz that thought they could extort more money?

For your next meeting, can you find a hand history that was received in the refund process and talk Travis into giving you "the real" version of just that one hand to post?

Nicely done Micons.

Druff, Micon - Next time you guys want to an LA based outing with your ladies, Dinner at The Magic Castle is on me.

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Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:39 am
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btw, DonkDown Radio, Bryan Micon and Todd Witteles were credited on the 4 pokercast this week when talking about this


Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:04 am
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micons are God.


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1) Solid Gold

2) Good Work

3) Solid Gold

4) Should this be stickied?

5) Solid Gold

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3cents wrote:
Questions for DD Radio Tomorrow

(expect your biggest live audience ever)

How much AP dirt does Travis have? So far it seems he is focused on the UB side of things....

Was the $2 million offer from another site? Was it a player looking for the truth? Was is from someone with better blackmail skillz that thought they could extort more money?

For your next meeting, can you find a hand history that was received in the refund process and talk Travis into giving you "the real" version of just that one hand to post?

Nicely done Micons.

Druff, Micon - Next time you guys want to an LA based outing with your ladies, Dinner at The Magic Castle is on me.

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Confirmed. I will be a first time live listener tonight.


Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:19 am
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joeeyeahh wrote:
3cents wrote:
Questions for DD Radio Tomorrow

(expect your biggest live audience ever)

How much AP dirt does Travis have? So far it seems he is focused on the UB side of things....

Was the $2 million offer from another site? Was it a player looking for the truth? Was is from someone with better blackmail skillz that thought they could extort more money?

For your next meeting, can you find a hand history that was received in the refund process and talk Travis into giving you "the real" version of just that one hand to post?

Nicely done Micons.

Druff, Micon - Next time you guys want to an LA based outing with your ladies, Dinner at The Magic Castle is on me.

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Confirmed. I will be a first time live listener tonight.

Excellent, welcome. For new users / lurkers, if you want to participate in the live chat room during the radio, please register an account. That way you can ask questions and make comments in real time during the show. Click on the "Chat Live!" tab at the top of the page to open the chat room. Show starts at 7:30 Pacific tonight. You can listen live by clicking on the "Donkdown Radio" tab above. Chat and radio have to be opened in separate windows.

And thanks for that nice offer 3cents! :)


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Excellent job Mr and Mrs Micon.

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Awesome and just in time for radio. Hopefully word gets out so lots of people tune in to hear in more detail.

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